Hello everyone!
We have had a lot of traffic since we have gone live and we are very happy that you have found us to be a useful resource. If you would like to see the effort continued we have a donation page that is accepting bitcoins as we have personally funded this through a group effort of consumers like yourself. Between paying other customers to make purchases, getting overnight shipping, and paying for CoAs its a costly affair to do true third party testing.
We have had a lot of questions about the operation and lab testing itself.
We recognize that different vendors use different labs for a variety of reasons. With that said there can be small variability between labs and you shouldn’t look at small discrepancies between one labs results and another as a reason to not trust a business enterprise. Unless you are seeing large differences in potency it is most likely the normal variability that can occur with testing these products. Labs can test the same material multiple times and have different results, different labs have different testing protocols resulting in variances, and natural products such as kratom will not be perfectly uniform leading to different samples having different results.
With that said any laboratory that is adhering to ISO/IEC 17025:2017 and is accredited by a recognized organization can be trusted to put out quality and legally accepted lab results.
When looking at labs make sure the organization publishing them is either on
https://www.pjlabs.com
https://a2la.org/
https://anab.ansi.org/
https://www.iasonline.org
Or other certified accreditation organizations.
Consumer education is key to keeping everyone in the business honest, as well as keeping the business itself legal. We want to see clean quality products on the market, being sold to well educated and responsible consumers!
Please if you find this project useful help us continue it by donating. It took a long time to build up the funds to do this work and it is going fast. Donate to the cause today!
We have had a lot of traffic since we have gone live and we are very happy that you have found us to be a useful resource. If you would like to see the effort continued we have a donation page that is accepting bitcoins as we have personally funded this through a group effort of consumers like yourself. Between paying other customers to make purchases, getting overnight shipping, and paying for CoAs its a costly affair to do true third party testing.
We have had a lot of questions about the operation and lab testing itself.
We recognize that different vendors use different labs for a variety of reasons. With that said there can be small variability between labs and you shouldn’t look at small discrepancies between one labs results and another as a reason to not trust a business enterprise. Unless you are seeing large differences in potency it is most likely the normal variability that can occur with testing these products. Labs can test the same material multiple times and have different results, different labs have different testing protocols resulting in variances, and natural products such as kratom will not be perfectly uniform leading to different samples having different results.
With that said any laboratory that is adhering to ISO/IEC 17025:2017 and is accredited by a recognized organization can be trusted to put out quality and legally accepted lab results.
When looking at labs make sure the organization publishing them is either on
https://www.pjlabs.com
https://a2la.org/
https://anab.ansi.org/
https://www.iasonline.org
Or other certified accreditation organizations.
Consumer education is key to keeping everyone in the business honest, as well as keeping the business itself legal. We want to see clean quality products on the market, being sold to well educated and responsible consumers!
Please if you find this project useful help us continue it by donating. It took a long time to build up the funds to do this work and it is going fast. Donate to the cause today!
Small variations in laboratory purity results are normal, even under tightly controlled conditions. Factors such as instrument calibration, sample handling, environmental conditions, and operator technique can introduce minor variability between tests. In ISO-certified laboratories (e.g., ISO/IEC 17025), these differences are minimized through standardized methods, validated procedures, and routine quality controls. Typically, well-run labs report measurement uncertainty in the range of ±1–2% for many chemical purity analyses, though the exact tolerance depends on the method and material being tested.
Plant extracts are inherently more variable because their composition depends on natural factors like growing conditions, harvest timing, and extraction methods. They’re also complex mixtures, which makes precise quantification harder. As a result, inter-lab differences of ±3–10% (or more) are not unusual, depending on the compound and method.
Plant extracts are inherently more variable because their composition depends on natural factors like growing conditions, harvest timing, and extraction methods. They’re also complex mixtures, which makes precise quantification harder. As a result, inter-lab differences of ±3–10% (or more) are not unusual, depending on the compound and method.
I came so close to buying from Stout Alks on many occasions, but always had a funny feeling about it, so never did. Your site proved that feeling right 10 times over. Wildly overstated potencies and insanely high methanol across the board. Thanks so much for doing this. You also reassured me that Bronx is legit and deserves my continued business and respect.
Yea ive tried there stuff before and it had a bad taste to it.. tounge burning and just a all around shady feeling… glad yall are doing this… this needed to happen
I appreciate the kind words. It might be hard to believe but a lot of people were not happy with us doing this.
It’s not hard to believe at all. We here at Second Resurrection are receiving a ton of hate for testing our own products. We have not released anything to the public in a few weeks because the chemist just isn’t getting it right. But yet we have received a ton of hate for trying to encourage others to begin the same practice and we encourage people to only buy what has posted results!
Check my longer comment below this once its approved.
This is great, thanks for doing this! I hope you continue to test more products 🙏🏼😅
I am trying to understand the MGM-15 testing results a little better. I know Dihydro-7-hydroxymitragynine . So, on that line, going thru it, the “RESULT” and number underneath it, is that telling us the actual percentage of the product? Reading tab results are pretty easy. Tells you the amount found in the “unit” (which I assume is an entire single tab), but trying to understand the powder reading of the MGM-15 I am struggling with. Everything else seems pretty straight forward. Can you help me with that one? I too, really appreciate what you are doing. Trancepancery in this alkaloid world is very tough. I can already see it coming. “ACA is just BS and paid to slander XYZ and is being ran by ABC! Do not trust them!” I would gladly start to donate if I can learn a little more about the process…
A lab result showing 73% active compound means there are 730 mg of that compound in every 1 gram (1,000 mg) of material. So a 73% result is not “73 mg”—it’s 730 mg per gram, with the remaining 270 mg made up of other compounds, moisture, salts, or inert material.
For residual solvents, labs typically use pass/fail limits, but they still report the actual amount detected. A sample may pass while still containing trace amounts of a solvent, allowing consumers to see the exact levels and decide for themselves whether they’re comfortable putting it in their body.
Right now we are funded entirely by donations, mostly taken through bitcoin. For our second round people have reached out to us saying they felt deceived by a vendor and asking us to test the product. To which we have sent them money to purchase more product, and have it sent to one of our mail forwarding addresses so that the vendors cant see who is making the purchase. We want to keep it fair so that the sellers can not send us samples they know are good, we want to receive the same material a new customer would. When we receive the sample we turn around and ship it to the lab for testing. Once we receive the results we post them on the website.
Damn. Shows how stupid I am. I legitimately have thought my tongue burning and lips sore/burnt and even swollen at times was from the high salt content or whatever. Back in like november or so I had a batch that smelled and tasted like gasoline or what youd imagine an oil fire would smell like. idk how to explain it. I used it all though obviously. Ive known that vendors who say “99%” are just marketing their product to compete with all the other sites “99%” stuff. But I thought my tolerance was just going craaaazy high lately because Id take a quarter gram and not feel much at all– however that wasnt from stout. Ive also had Bronx stuff be insanely fire, and had low grade stuff as well. The white thai bronx had previously was extremely good, ill give him that. but the fact that all these vendors are saying their stuff is in the 90++ % and really its 20-30% less is insane. Dont make this industry kill itself guys. All it takes is one angry person to ruin everything. All you vendors reading this please take this to your chests—> you are all going to be multi millionaires without harming each other. The only possible way to not become millionaires is to 1) sell shady stepped on, low level BS. OR 2), Attacking each other for short term gain and greed. I promise you all, greed will cause you guys to be stopped short, when you have the ability to work together and hit home runs. Trust me, I WISH I knew the chemists and could join the scene. But I dont, so I will continue to be the consumer as long as you guys are putting out quality. Every one of you has the money to test your batches at a minimum of TWO WELL KNOWN REPUTABLE, 3rd party labs and publicly post it each time. The first one of you vendors that does what I just said will inherently take the business away from your competitors without smear campaigns, text message threats, and black mail. it goes to the saying: “Actions speak louder than words.” The consumer wants 3 things only: 1) High quality shit. 2) fair/low prices 3) Proof that we aren’t taking in chemicals &/or being shorted on potency.